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darkhavens
09 November 2010 @ 04:33 pm
Final (I hope!) update on the plagiarism case: Guilty and not unintentionally so
The 'spikes_kogagirl is guilty' post at stop_plagiarism I mentioned yesterday has been unlocked, clarified and ETA'd. To quote the mod, archylou, who has worked diligently on this:

The main issues:
• The phrase “Undead's not bad, but dead's no fun at all” is from Twilight Time and when I searched this specific phrase it returned only 1 match, the story 'Twilight Time'. While the serach for the phrase “Undead is alright, but dead is no fun at all” brings back a match of 0. This is not a common phrase at all and points directly to very slight rewording of the original story.

• The telephone conversation between Angel and Spike, both in language and how it is written. When both stories are viewed along side of one another the format is almost identical with only minor changes to language and description. This type of writing style does not appear again in 'mending souls' however it is common in 'Twilight Time"

• A specific mention within both stories Xander’s telling Spike of "you got to first base without even taking me out on a date". Again a search for this specific phrase only brings back one match, to Twilight Time. This is another phrase that is not common and does point to a copying of the original story.



In viewing these two stories side by side, there are unmistakable similarities and obvious rewording of certain scenes. The defense that this is not plagiarism because it was unintentional is not a valid excuse.

I have been able to communicate with all involved and while the new story was removed immediately after spikes_kogagirl was made aware of the issue and did offer to rewrite the story, spikes_kogagirl did not believe 'mending souls' was a case of plagiarism as she never intended to plagiarise Twilight Time and the stories simply shared themes.

However, due to the copying and rewording as I have outlined above spikes_kogagirl will be added to the list of known plagiarists.

ETA - I have had further communication from spikes_kogagirl in which she has now stated that she does no longer deny the accusations.


/quote

I want to believe it's all over, I really do. I apologise for spamming your flists with this again. Hopefully, this was the last time. Now to try and catch up on over four days of lj activity. I need fic, dammit!
 
tabaquitabaqui on November 9th, 2010 09:06 pm (UTC)
Um in this post and the bloodclaim post, you say you have a quote and then there's nothing after that but /quote.

Did you leave something out?

I hope she doesn't continue to pester you.
*hugs*
darkhavens: sx just one taste [literati]darkhavens on November 9th, 2010 09:18 pm (UTC)
I... am confused. I copied and pasted a whole chunk of the verdict into the post. I can see it there. Are you saying you can't see *anything* between 'to quote the mod' and '/quote'?

*glares at lj with suspicion*
tabaquitabaqui on November 9th, 2010 09:41 pm (UTC)
Maybe i'm confused. I see this:

ETA - I have had further communication from [info]spikes_kogagirl in which she has now stated that she does no longer deny the accusations.

/quote

And i'm like - did you mean to quote her non-denial? Or is that something from the stop_plagiarism mod, too?

I thought the ETA was *you* saying you'd had communications saying 'i did it!!'
Heh.
darkhavens: b5 londo/g'kar - forgive youdarkhavens on November 9th, 2010 09:45 pm (UTC)
Ah, no. Everything is quoted from the s_p post, just... not as clearly as I'd meant to, obviously. *g*

I woke up to that good (better?) news in my inbox, and had to share.

I'm still waiting for the other shoe to drop, but hopefully that will fade. *hands*

Maybe if I italicized the quoted part that would make it clearer. *runs*
tabaquitabaqui on November 10th, 2010 01:44 am (UTC)
Ah, i see. I'm baffled that after all this fuss and fanfare, she simply admits to copying. Wtf?

Weirdo.

And yes - the italics help! Because i'm a poor, confused individual. :)
eyezrthewindowseyezrthewindows on November 10th, 2010 01:59 am (UTC)
Wow. She admitted guilt after all that desperate "OMG I so didn't copy. I can rewrite. I didn't do it! I think I'll slit my wrists b/c of all of the bad ppl saying bad things about me that so aren't true!" nonsense? Apparently her retaliation was to create her own comm, like, a handful of days after this big mess took place. Weird... lol

I'm glad it's over. Hopefully. And everyone can get back to their regularly scheduled porning.
darkhavens: s mine w claws [literati]darkhavens on November 11th, 2010 03:12 am (UTC)
I just hope she learned from the whole mess. And something beyond 'be sneakier next time - rewrite all the lines!'

When I saw the comm go up I was amused and bemused. I don't expect much to come of it, but even if it becomes popular, I can't see it affecting bloodclaim in the slightest. Membership seems to have stalled in the low twenties for now, so... *shrugs*

Regularly scheduled porning should definitely be the next step on the road to recovery for all of us. *\o/*
eyezrthewindowseyezrthewindows on November 11th, 2010 03:22 am (UTC)
Yay for porning! *\o/*
your royal pie-nessentrenous88 on November 10th, 2010 03:20 am (UTC)
Wow, okay, so at long last she says she does not deny it? Good?

And yes, let's move on, fic and pron and yays!!!
darkhavens: b5 koshdarkhavens on November 11th, 2010 03:14 am (UTC)
She was stubbornly in denial to the last. :/

Finally, I can get back to my stable of pretty boys all waiting to do lascivious things in front of me. *\o/*
Maz: Dovethismaz on November 10th, 2010 06:51 am (UTC)
*more hugs, just because* Let's hope that the ETA indicates that she now understands what plagiarism is and realises that she did do it, even if it was through ignorance. It's a hard but true fact that ignorance is no defence in law.
darkhavens: can't sleep obscure pairings will eat medarkhavens on November 11th, 2010 03:15 am (UTC)
Thank you!

She... seems to have accepted that she was in the wrong, but we shall have to wait and see if any real lessons were learned.

And now, back to the pron! :D